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#421 Anthuny

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 09:01 PM

Zid's room is beautiful. <3
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 09:23 PM

Zid's room is beautiful. <3

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 10:02 PM

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 10:44 PM

Give me reasons to NOT ban mob grinding. :P
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 11:10 PM

Give me reasons to NOT ban mob grinding. :P


It give decent xp for the player who made the mob grinder. Mob grinders can take a long time to build and require some knowledge on how to make it. At the end, it's very rewarding.

Of course, it give an advantage to the player but it doesn't stop the others to make one too.

In all survival worlds, the beginning is the most difficult part to pass through because you will run out of hunger very fast, don't have a lot of items, etc. As time passes, our stocks will increase/equipments will upgrade, It also means, life in Minecraft will be easier.

So I don't think mob grinders will affect the survival type in the late game. Also, grinding xp with a monster spawner and killing monsters/mining coals for xp have both something in common: they are boring (in my opinion). The only difference is that the mob grinders require you less time playing the game since you will probably afk.

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 11:29 PM

i hid mine and protected it after you added the password thing even if somebody finds it they cant actually reach it to use it so you know i took time and effort to build it ive protected it well so yeah....... as long as they are restricted to those who built it i dont see a problem with it


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#427 Anthuny

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 12:01 AM

Give me reasons to NOT ban mob grinding. :P


It can be used to make lots of food.

Yes, but I could also make a 100-block long line of melons that have very a fast growth rate. An infinite and fast food source that only requires a single seed to start.

They could get a ridiculous amount of easy experience and enchant things.

1. Weapon enchantment. They can kill monsters a bit easier. But then again, with the grinder, what's the need to kill mobs en masse anyways?

2. Armour enchantments. Yeah right. xD

3. Tool enchantments. Specifically, pickaxes. MineCraft is HUGE. Some might even say infinite. What does it hurt if somone's pickaxe lasts a bit longer than others, or it can mine slightly faster than normal, or cause double drops of diamond so you can make more diamond pickaxes to mine for more diamonds so you can make more pickaxes. I made a single room 30x30x20. It took me a week to mine it out. So I don't think that, even with enchanted tools, anyone could mine enough of an area to actually make it harder for other (newer) players to collect stuff, unless that person only lives 5 blocks away.




So... yeah. Reasons.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 12:18 AM

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 12:32 AM

Yeah, truthfully I'd have to agree with the majority here. I just don't see the grinders having an overall massive effect on the game in the long run. In kilvehk's case, he got lucky this round in that he found a spawner while mining near his temporary shelter by the spawn. And even then, it was McSwindler who found the End Portal first. Vehk has a ton of bonemeal and arrows, but really we don't use arrows very often as a standard weapon, and bonemeal can spawn food fast, but really you only need so much food, so even that falls out of use. As for XP for enchanting, sure grinders give an advantage in faster XP, but that doesn't really bother me. Especially since anyone can do it with a little exploring, ingenuity, and trial and error. It's an advantage/luxury that everyone has access to if they pursue it. Nothing unfair about that.

Given all that, I really don't see any need to ban grinders. They're feats of engineering, and it's not going to be every game that we find a spawner on the first day (which I suspect is a good part of the reason we're having this discussion). That was just a fluke.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 01:27 AM

Mob grinders are a mechanic in the game, just like a house. You build, you use it; anyone can build it. You said yourself that the plans were easy enough to find on Google.

Compare a mob grinder to a diamond pickaxe: why do people make diamond pickaxes? To make the game easier by being able to mine faster. Why do people make mod grinders? To make the game easier by being able to kill mobs faster.
What do you have to do in order to make a diamond pickaxe? Find diamonds, which can be quite difficult when first starting out, although you can get lucky and find a pyramid with 4 diamonds in it on the first day. What do you have to do in order to make a mob grinder? Find a spawner, which can take some time, although you can get lucky and find one right under your house on the first day.
Who is able to make diamond pickaxes? Anyone, as long as you take the effort to find the diamonds, there is no limitation. Who is able to make a mob grinder? Anyone, as long as you take the effort to find a spawner and build the grinder.

So, in conclusion, mob grinders are a feature in the game; if they were some sort of unfair advantage, the developers would have debunked them long ago. If you ban grinders, you may as well ban diamond tools as well.

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 01:30 AM

THAT'S IT. BANNING DIAMOND ITEMS/TOOLS!
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#432 Shaleclaw

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 02:01 AM

THAT'S IT. BANNING DIAMOND ITEMS/TOOLS!

Next stop: the Stone Tool Age. :P

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:27 AM

I found 3 spawners,mined them but I couldn't pock them up. ;-; (I used a iron pick to mine them.)

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 09:14 AM

Next stop: the Stone Tool Age. :P

Pshsh, wood is where it's at man! ;)
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 12:20 PM

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 01:43 PM

Yes, I am a great miner!

I believe it says you're a "good" miner ;)
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#437 Shaleclaw

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 01:43 PM

Sorry McSwindler. Guess you'll just have to tone down your awesomeness at mining so the rest of us can catch up to you in our mining expeditions! Can't have you hoarding all the diamonds now, can we? ;)

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 02:38 PM

Hey Zid,my signiture officaly supports the server now. ;)

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Posted 06 October 2012 - 02:38 PM

PRETTY IN PINK.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 02:40 PM

Hey Zid,my signiture officaly supports the server now. ;)

GRAZIE SENOR :D
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