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#1 Rainbow Dash

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 11:58 PM

Some people may have strong opinions on this, others may not even be aware that chiropractic is considered alternative medicine, and yet others may not even know what I'm talking about.

To address the last one, chiropractic is the practice of bone manipulations in a person (particularly the spine), in order to improve upon the patients health in a variety of ways, particularly through the manipulation of what are known as "vertebral subluxations". However, it's legitimacy as a medical practice has been in question ever since it's founding, and while relatively accepted today, still tends to be at odds with modern medicine.

So, in your opinion, is it something legitimate or just plain old quackery? Do you/would you ever visit a chiropractor?

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 11:10 PM

Well, I go to a chiropractor regularly and my health has noticeably improved from what it used to be. Judging by that, I would say, "yes, it's legit, and it works." :)

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 11:24 PM

Me and my brother joke about the idea, some of the things they do seem like they wouldn't work, but in reality they do.

I'd first go to a Chiropractor to see what they can do / offer and then if it doesn't work go to a doctor. Most the time Doctors will just subscribe a pill, while a Chiropractor can help work something out. For example, I use to get bad headaches (still do sometimes) and my Chiropractor can readjust my neck and it'll fix it, another way I can fix it is by taking about 1500mg of Ibuprofen, but obviously the Chiropractor way is better.

If you haven't gone to one before, you should at least try it (Make sure it's a reputable guy though :P). Then you'll be wanting to go monthly.

OP you never said what you thought? Though I reckon by starting the topic, you'd say they are legit?

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 11:35 PM

If you are talking spinal issues, yes they are legit. Since there are many painful situations that can happen when your spine is pinching nerves, or you are in pain, of course they seem like they can help with quite a range of issues. However, the quacks who claim they can cure nearly anything just by pushing here and there on your back make all chiropractors look bad. Also, never let them adjust your neck, its just too delicate a system. Yeah it could help a bit, or just a tiny miscalculation could leave you paralyzed for life, or even brain dead. It isn't worth the chance.

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 11:42 PM

Also, never let them adjust your neck, its just too delicate a system. Yeah it could help a bit, or just a tiny miscalculation could leave you paralyzed for life, or even brain dead. It isn't worth the chance.


I'd agree if I didn't know the Chiropractor, but I've been with the same Chiropractor since I was just a few weeks old (not kidding) so almost 20 years (I hate typing that, makes me seem old to myself :/), I did think it was the worst thing to have your neck adjusted when I was little (like you implied, it would be bad if it went wrong). But for me it does a lot more than just a little bit of help.

But Kitty touched a good point, make sure the person you are using is not a cure-all kind of person, if it's something they can't help you with, they should tell you and should point you to the right person. All comes back to making sure the person you are using is really, really good, can't stress that enough.

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Posted 11 June 2012 - 12:47 AM

OP you never said what you thought? Though I reckon by starting the topic, you'd say they are legit?

Ah, but that was intentional ;) I didn't want to start the discussion off with my own bias polarizing the matter, but rather wanted to see what people's baseline thoughts were first. Unfortunately, your assumption is incorrect. I am actually rather opposed to the ideas and practices of chiropractic (to answer your question, I made the topic because my girlfriend's primary health care practitioner is her chiropractor).

In particular, what I do not like about chiropractic is it's very shaky foundation, it's facetious teachings (bold to say, I know, but I'll get to that), lack of empirical evidence, and it's generally strong opposition to modern medicine. I'll use that as an outline and try to keep this short :P

Firstly, chiropractic was founded in 1895 by D.D.Palmer, who was a magnetic healer, after claiming he cured a deaf man by a carefully planned adjustment (which in reality the man wasn't deaf and it was an accidental slap on the back rather than anything carefully planned, as claim witnesses). Pursuing this avenue, he built the basis of chiropractic, which is that any disease or ailment known to man (from small pox, to heart disease, to deafness) can be cured by "spinal manipulation". He believed that nerves transmitted energy to organs and other parts of the body, and that by misalignments those pathways were pinched, which caused organs to fail and sickness to occur. He was the one to come up with the idea of "spinal subluxations" to describe these special types of misalignments. He eventually opened up a school as an extension of his magnetic healing practice, and after a long list of other mishaps I won't bother listing, he passed it onto his son, who took things further and at one point considered making chiropractic a religion.

Fast forwarding to today for the second/third point, straights and mixers both teach and follow the original beliefs of these "spinal subluxations", despite the fact that they have no formally definition even among chiropractors, and x-rays and other modern medicine techniques (plus our better understanding of the nervous system which contradicts Palmer's claims, and thus the basis of these subluxations) can't even prove that they exist, let alone what they are. In my own personal experience, I've gone to multiple chiropractors who all told me I had spinal subluxations, but each said I had it in a different location (and repeat visits to the same ones still claim to find them where they did the first time, so they aren't moving). The only logical answer then, must be that these "subluxations" are mythical entities, designed as a reason to keep you coming back week after week for the rest of your life.

Finally, and the real one that bothers me, is their grudge match with modern medicine. Almost every chiropractor I've been to have various materials (pamphlets, books, videos, etc) teaching about the evils of modern medicine, claiming it to be one big conspiracy, only caring for money and not for human health. While I agree that money makes the world go round and it certainly isn't perfect, to say such things basically implies that everyone going into a medical profession is in on this and evil, and if it were true I'm rather certain our lifespans would be getting shorter, not longer. Nonetheless, they use scare tactics (literally) to pull people into believing that they can cure you with their magic hands and practices, and medicine should be avoided. This comes personally to me regarding my girlfriend, who despite having little in the way of poor medical history, has her chiropractor as her primary health care practitioner, and I've watched over the years as her health has degraded from where it once was, and rather than going to specialists, her chiropractor tells her to go on different eating plans and other alternative means. There is also no way to prove or disprove if it's working, because if things don't get better, it's because they take time, and when they do, it's because it's finally working.

Bah, this was longer than I intended... I'm sorry... I do want to finish by adding that not everything modern chiropractors do is without merit (some branch into nutrition, or physical therapy, but both have specialized fields anyways), but in my opinion chiropractic itself has almost no merit. I've seen it hurt more than I've seen it help, and there's just enough fishy stuff about it to make me less than willing to give it the benefit of the doubt.
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Posted 11 June 2012 - 02:49 AM

Let me just say this, when my mother's back hurts she goes to her chiro or to her masseuse, depending on what hurts and how it feels. When she is having any other issues she goes to her doctor. I have heard of people who only go to a chiro and decry doctors, but never met one in real life. I have met many people who decry all chiros on general principles. I think a chiro who really has studied physiology and honestly knows what they are doing, and stick to that, is just fine doing what they do. Otherwise, I'll take my chances with the guy that was forced to pass some very strict testing on how the physical body as a whole actually works, even if they only took those classes in order to make money in the end.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 07:08 AM

I use a chiroractor and a doctor for my overall health. I believe there is validation in the alignment of your spine. Everything connects that way and just like a freeway, if there is congestion, cars cannot get through, so in this case, the communtion between the brain and all the nerves is not at it's best.

(to answer your question, I made the topic because my girlfriend's primary health care practitioner is her chiropractor).


Having only 1 person as a cure-all is dangerous. If I were to have a broken arm, I certainly wouldn't go to my chirorpractor to have it fixed, just like if I had a brain tumor I would not go to my general doctor, I would see a specialist.
 
 

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